thatisme
Mar 28, 05:38 PM
I think you both just said exactly the same thing, so I'm not sure why Full of Win is arguing?
If I shoot my 50mm 1.8 II through my 7d I am effectively multiplying the lenses focal length with the cameras crop factor to give the photographs field of view. ie 50x1.6=80.
So focal length 50mm= field of view 80mm. (On a 1.6 crop)
Allthough...This statement from thatisme 'So, you WILL get different focal lengths from 2 identically marked lenses where one is an EF-S lens and the other is an EF lens.' is false.
You will, in fact, get two different Field of Views but the same Focal Length.
Thanks for the correction, and good catch.
So, for the OP, the difference between EF-sand EF lenses is that EF-S are lighter and cheaper and are tied to 1.6 sensor cameras. EF is more versatile since they work on all EF mount cameras (including EF-S). They can be very cheap or very expensive(and good) when you get into L series lenses.
There is really no good reason to compare focal length or field of view between the two since construction wise, they are like apples and oranges.
Where it becomes relevant, is when you have an EF lens, and you own different format cameras ( like I do). my 400mm 2.8 L IS lens is a true 400mm on my 5D mark II, and 520mm on my 1D mark IIn (1.3) and 640mm on my old 20D. I don't really care about the EF-S mount since it only applies to one of the 3 camera bodies.
Is not true: a 50mm EF lens and a 50mm EF-s lens will have the same focal length and field of view on a crop camera.
This is not correct.
A EF-s 50 mm lens is 50 mm on a 1.6 camera. A 50mm EF lens on that same camera is similar in image to a 80mm EF-S lens. The reason for the difference comes into play by the amount of the lens the camera is using to record the image and the proximity of the rear element to the camera sensor.
If I shoot my 50mm 1.8 II through my 7d I am effectively multiplying the lenses focal length with the cameras crop factor to give the photographs field of view. ie 50x1.6=80.
So focal length 50mm= field of view 80mm. (On a 1.6 crop)
Allthough...This statement from thatisme 'So, you WILL get different focal lengths from 2 identically marked lenses where one is an EF-S lens and the other is an EF lens.' is false.
You will, in fact, get two different Field of Views but the same Focal Length.
Thanks for the correction, and good catch.
So, for the OP, the difference between EF-sand EF lenses is that EF-S are lighter and cheaper and are tied to 1.6 sensor cameras. EF is more versatile since they work on all EF mount cameras (including EF-S). They can be very cheap or very expensive(and good) when you get into L series lenses.
There is really no good reason to compare focal length or field of view between the two since construction wise, they are like apples and oranges.
Where it becomes relevant, is when you have an EF lens, and you own different format cameras ( like I do). my 400mm 2.8 L IS lens is a true 400mm on my 5D mark II, and 520mm on my 1D mark IIn (1.3) and 640mm on my old 20D. I don't really care about the EF-S mount since it only applies to one of the 3 camera bodies.
Is not true: a 50mm EF lens and a 50mm EF-s lens will have the same focal length and field of view on a crop camera.
This is not correct.
A EF-s 50 mm lens is 50 mm on a 1.6 camera. A 50mm EF lens on that same camera is similar in image to a 80mm EF-S lens. The reason for the difference comes into play by the amount of the lens the camera is using to record the image and the proximity of the rear element to the camera sensor.
Neuro
Apr 2, 07:02 PM
I hate the fact Pages always defaults to US English spelling. There seems to be no permanent way to switch to UK English! Arrrgh. No offence to Americans, but there are other people in the world.
OrangeSVTguy
Apr 8, 04:52 PM
So I guess I see where my discovery channel went Andy why I got like 10 more stations :confused:. Guess I should read the news more often :p
Bring back Discovery :(
Bring back Discovery :(
iNeko
Mar 25, 05:59 AM
Waiting excitedly for mine to arrive :)
Curse the parcel deliveries to come later than the regular post!
Curse the parcel deliveries to come later than the regular post!
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jsw
Sep 13, 09:22 AM
I know -- just a few minutes with them and they'll have you in stitches.
And surgeons are less boring in bed - anesthesiologists always want to put you under, er, be on top.
And surgeons are less boring in bed - anesthesiologists always want to put you under, er, be on top.
StellarSoul
Jun 19, 08:15 PM
I am currently deciding whether to buy a 360 Slim or a PS3 Slim. PS3 has won out for one single reason. It has an inbuilt 3D blu ray player that will be getting support for years to come. Had the 360 included a blu ray player, I would be buying it. Sorry MS.
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SeaFox
Oct 27, 04:44 PM
- No spam management
- No full data set for the Address Book (still can't note bdays, etc.)
- No iCal integration with a fully editable calendar
Yup, I mirror those complaints. There is spam filtering, but I personally have no way to change the settings, I'd like to make them a little more restrictive. One thing I notice about the Address Book is the way it ranks phone numbers for display. This was a problem in the old Webmail as well.
The new Address Book search in the mailbox window is cool, but when it displays the phone number, it only shows one of the phone numbers for the contact, and it doesn't let you choose which one. It ranks the numbers as 1. Mobile, 2. Home, and 3. Work. So if I want the work number to display for a contact, the only option is to not list a mobile or home number for them! Even worse, it doesn't tell you which one it's using, either. All them would need to do is add a faint (m), (h), or (w) notation like they do other places in Webmail.
I'd also like to see screen real estate used a little better. The bar with "Feedback" "Prefrences" and the language is a waste, moving those to buttons on the main toolbar would be better, and I don't need the top with the Apple site tabs, or the links to the other .Mac areas, either. I tried to remove them with Firefox but I got a blank area at the bottom of the window the same size then, so I didn't gain any usuable space, also this removed the only Logout button on the page.
I do really like the new webmail overall in the end. Much less clicking needed to get things done. But it does need some polishing.
And the lack of a web-editable calendar function is just dumb. I sometimes think of just paying the $20 a year fee for Yahoo Mail Plus to get rid of the ads and transfer everything over ot that. Their calandar is a real must have for me. And I would get more reliable email service, but I want IMAP access.
Edit: The bar separating the message list from the preview pane can be moved up and down, but the position is not remembered and resets after you log out or go to the address book.
There's a "Get Mail" button. I hope I don't have to push that to check for new messages anymore. I would expect an webmail system using "the latest technologies" to have an AJAX interface and retrieve new messages periodically on it's own without having to reload the entire page.
- No full data set for the Address Book (still can't note bdays, etc.)
- No iCal integration with a fully editable calendar
Yup, I mirror those complaints. There is spam filtering, but I personally have no way to change the settings, I'd like to make them a little more restrictive. One thing I notice about the Address Book is the way it ranks phone numbers for display. This was a problem in the old Webmail as well.
The new Address Book search in the mailbox window is cool, but when it displays the phone number, it only shows one of the phone numbers for the contact, and it doesn't let you choose which one. It ranks the numbers as 1. Mobile, 2. Home, and 3. Work. So if I want the work number to display for a contact, the only option is to not list a mobile or home number for them! Even worse, it doesn't tell you which one it's using, either. All them would need to do is add a faint (m), (h), or (w) notation like they do other places in Webmail.
I'd also like to see screen real estate used a little better. The bar with "Feedback" "Prefrences" and the language is a waste, moving those to buttons on the main toolbar would be better, and I don't need the top with the Apple site tabs, or the links to the other .Mac areas, either. I tried to remove them with Firefox but I got a blank area at the bottom of the window the same size then, so I didn't gain any usuable space, also this removed the only Logout button on the page.
I do really like the new webmail overall in the end. Much less clicking needed to get things done. But it does need some polishing.
And the lack of a web-editable calendar function is just dumb. I sometimes think of just paying the $20 a year fee for Yahoo Mail Plus to get rid of the ads and transfer everything over ot that. Their calandar is a real must have for me. And I would get more reliable email service, but I want IMAP access.
Edit: The bar separating the message list from the preview pane can be moved up and down, but the position is not remembered and resets after you log out or go to the address book.
There's a "Get Mail" button. I hope I don't have to push that to check for new messages anymore. I would expect an webmail system using "the latest technologies" to have an AJAX interface and retrieve new messages periodically on it's own without having to reload the entire page.
erictheb
Nov 12, 12:47 AM
Trying Japanese (Shift JIS) this time
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sorry about this, but I've had trouble with Japanese text only getting thru intact to a portion of friends to whom I write. Haven't been able to come up with a determination of what the issue is (e.g., Yahoo, 10.4.x, Hotmail). And it's late and I'm avoiding doing work.
Again, sorry for the massively off-topic stuff here...I thank you for your patience (if you actually are patient about it).
EB
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sorry about this, but I've had trouble with Japanese text only getting thru intact to a portion of friends to whom I write. Haven't been able to come up with a determination of what the issue is (e.g., Yahoo, 10.4.x, Hotmail). And it's late and I'm avoiding doing work.
Again, sorry for the massively off-topic stuff here...I thank you for your patience (if you actually are patient about it).
EB
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JDDavis
Mar 11, 08:07 PM
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This is great contrast. Love the yellow. Even though it's a bit centered it works because of the curves and the lighting. My suggestion is to go ahead and black out the sky that's showing through. To me it makes it even stronger. I tried cropping it and I think it looks better at it's current size with the sky blacked out.
This is great contrast. Love the yellow. Even though it's a bit centered it works because of the curves and the lighting. My suggestion is to go ahead and black out the sky that's showing through. To me it makes it even stronger. I tried cropping it and I think it looks better at it's current size with the sky blacked out.
NewGenAdam
Apr 12, 03:42 PM
You bring a fresh perspective to these boards. Actually discussing an issue rather than getting worked up in a tizzy and shouting platitudes. ;)
well that's too kind! I like it here because people seem pretty well informed. Maybe Jobs' pretentious claim that Apple is "the intersection of the Liberal Arts and Technology" (http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1976935-4,00.html#ixzz1JLMouV91) isn't too far off the mark.
well that's too kind! I like it here because people seem pretty well informed. Maybe Jobs' pretentious claim that Apple is "the intersection of the Liberal Arts and Technology" (http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1976935-4,00.html#ixzz1JLMouV91) isn't too far off the mark.
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ct2k7
May 2, 08:33 PM
Exactly what have they said that they've taken back?
The woman killed in the incident turned out not to be bin Laden's wife.
The woman killed in the incident turned out not to be bin Laden's wife.
jacobtaylor1987
Mar 28, 05:49 PM
"Oh, one more thing..we've got a preview of the new iOS5, and I'd love to show it to you."
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steeleclipse
Sep 18, 11:57 PM
How would one send an instant message across the store to another computer in the same store? I realize the whole to her portion would require her presence in front of a computer, I am just talking in general, unless you signed into both and sent it to yourself or something :confused:
nevermind... those were examples, nothing more. if thats what you commented on in my post, forget it. Its falling on deaf ears :D Through your post you go onto say "she can look me up" or whatever... I got news for you... you are looking for ways to talk to her remember? I can bet one thing right now that shes NOT doing... thinking of ways to talk to you. Please dont take offense to that, its just generally something women dont have to do.
You want her? Go get her! Don't hide behind "i dont care" because the fact is you do, and deep down you would be pissed if she started dating someone besides you... SELF CONFIDENCE! thats what i hear time and time again :D
nevermind... those were examples, nothing more. if thats what you commented on in my post, forget it. Its falling on deaf ears :D Through your post you go onto say "she can look me up" or whatever... I got news for you... you are looking for ways to talk to her remember? I can bet one thing right now that shes NOT doing... thinking of ways to talk to you. Please dont take offense to that, its just generally something women dont have to do.
You want her? Go get her! Don't hide behind "i dont care" because the fact is you do, and deep down you would be pissed if she started dating someone besides you... SELF CONFIDENCE! thats what i hear time and time again :D
tvguru
Sep 25, 11:10 AM
Is there shown any RAW cameras supported in 1.5 that weren't in the current version? I wasn't up on that since mine was supported and that's all that mattered to me, but if there are new camera's supported it would point to 10.4.8 to be released later this week too.
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gwangung
Sep 25, 11:02 PM
So? Some words like "Podcast" are adopted from popular culture. I still talk about Walkmans, not "Portable Audio Cassette Decks". Imagine how annoying that would be to say every time?
I can understand why they want to protect the iPod name. That is their name, and that is their product. However, they really should leave "Podcast" alone. Having a "Podcast" is like the ultimate insult to everyone like Creative, Microsoft, etc. The name "Podcast" exists not because people want to leech off of the iPod's popularity, but because of the iPods popularity, and how endeared it is by our culture. These "Podcasts" were created to be downloaded onto iPods so that people can listen. In our society, iPod comes to mind first. Nobody was thinking of creating these audiocasts with the Creative Zen or MS Zune in mind. If they end up on a Zune, that's fine, but the thought was to get their content on iPods, which is really quite a compliment to Apple when you think about it.
Apple should really reconsider their actions.
Hm?
This really doesn't make sense.
The word "Podcast" is derived from iPod, of course, but the CONCEPT of podcast is not inherently ipod-related. Because of that, it inherently dilutes the iPod trademark. You could just as easily call it an MP3-cast, and not have people be confused that it's coming from Apple (and the fact that Apple has been continually trying to trademark iPodcast itself for quite some time is another interesting bit of info).
The very fact that you're trying to have it cover Zune, Creative, etc. when it's derived from a specific product shows that Apple HAS to protect its trademark, particularly when another company is trying to profit from that name.
I can understand why they want to protect the iPod name. That is their name, and that is their product. However, they really should leave "Podcast" alone. Having a "Podcast" is like the ultimate insult to everyone like Creative, Microsoft, etc. The name "Podcast" exists not because people want to leech off of the iPod's popularity, but because of the iPods popularity, and how endeared it is by our culture. These "Podcasts" were created to be downloaded onto iPods so that people can listen. In our society, iPod comes to mind first. Nobody was thinking of creating these audiocasts with the Creative Zen or MS Zune in mind. If they end up on a Zune, that's fine, but the thought was to get their content on iPods, which is really quite a compliment to Apple when you think about it.
Apple should really reconsider their actions.
Hm?
This really doesn't make sense.
The word "Podcast" is derived from iPod, of course, but the CONCEPT of podcast is not inherently ipod-related. Because of that, it inherently dilutes the iPod trademark. You could just as easily call it an MP3-cast, and not have people be confused that it's coming from Apple (and the fact that Apple has been continually trying to trademark iPodcast itself for quite some time is another interesting bit of info).
The very fact that you're trying to have it cover Zune, Creative, etc. when it's derived from a specific product shows that Apple HAS to protect its trademark, particularly when another company is trying to profit from that name.
JAT
Sep 25, 10:58 AM
I'm not a photographer, so I don't understand the significance of this update, but I was surprised to see all of these integration improvements. Is integrating with Flickr or your iPod or keynote that useful to a pro? I'd have though these were things more of interest to an average Mac user trying to show off his vacation/baby photos.
Are you pros interested in these things? Or maybe Apple is trying to get the serious amateur interested in Aperture?
There are tons of serious amateurs using or interested in Aperture. Or Lightroom. This would be an excellent feature for me. (if I could use the program, see above)
The worst "feature" of Aperture is the high computer requirements. It really is a resource hog for not much reason. LR is becoming very similar with far less system specs.
Are you pros interested in these things? Or maybe Apple is trying to get the serious amateur interested in Aperture?
There are tons of serious amateurs using or interested in Aperture. Or Lightroom. This would be an excellent feature for me. (if I could use the program, see above)
The worst "feature" of Aperture is the high computer requirements. It really is a resource hog for not much reason. LR is becoming very similar with far less system specs.
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KnightWRX
May 6, 06:47 AM
Even under Linux, it's easier than in Windows.
Networking is only hard if you have no clue what you are doing. Let's face it, most of it has been hidden away under layers and layers of auto-configuration that every OS under the sun has supported for decades now.
You barely even have to worry about cabling anymore, with MDI-X.
And personally, I find the Network and Sharing center confusing in Windows. It's like everything is buried way too deep. Windows 2000 was just perfect as far as the Windows implementation of a networking GUI configuration tool goes. It's been downhill ever since. Just give me flat text files any day of the week though.
Networking is only hard if you have no clue what you are doing. Let's face it, most of it has been hidden away under layers and layers of auto-configuration that every OS under the sun has supported for decades now.
You barely even have to worry about cabling anymore, with MDI-X.
And personally, I find the Network and Sharing center confusing in Windows. It's like everything is buried way too deep. Windows 2000 was just perfect as far as the Windows implementation of a networking GUI configuration tool goes. It's been downhill ever since. Just give me flat text files any day of the week though.
MacRumorUser
Jun 14, 06:38 PM
I like it. Will no doubt trade in my existing 360 for one as soon as they are released here. Need more space than 120gb anyway :)
Did they change/refine the controller?
So that's 1 piece of hardware from E3 on my list. Bring it on Sony & Nintendo. Oh and whilst I like the look of kinetic / natal, the line up of launch titles reads like every mediocre wii game we all run 500 miles away from.
Did they change/refine the controller?
So that's 1 piece of hardware from E3 on my list. Bring it on Sony & Nintendo. Oh and whilst I like the look of kinetic / natal, the line up of launch titles reads like every mediocre wii game we all run 500 miles away from.
alphaod
Apr 16, 03:00 PM
But seriously, if I were him, I'd just say "Screw off Apple, you didn't care about me until I was famous!" Then submit my app for Android.
that's kind of a double-sided blade; you say screw Apple while taking yourself out of a market with a lot of potential sales.
that's kind of a double-sided blade; you say screw Apple while taking yourself out of a market with a lot of potential sales.
EddieT
Nov 11, 09:20 AM
It seems these ads are almost a carbon copy of US versions which are translated into Japanese.
Except for the first one, which is a play on words with "Mac" and "work," which when pronounced in katakana Japanese rhymes with "Mac."
In that US version ad, the Japanese chick says the PC guy looks like a "otaku." I think "Otaku" is roughly translated to homeboy (stay-at-home guy or geek).
Homeboy? Not where I grew up.
Except for the first one, which is a play on words with "Mac" and "work," which when pronounced in katakana Japanese rhymes with "Mac."
In that US version ad, the Japanese chick says the PC guy looks like a "otaku." I think "Otaku" is roughly translated to homeboy (stay-at-home guy or geek).
Homeboy? Not where I grew up.
Xavier
Mar 13, 09:47 AM
My Verizon iPhone found the correct time. All is well over here.
srf4real
Sep 28, 06:04 PM
I think we'll see 10.4.good buddy before Leopard is available:p
steeleclipse
Sep 18, 11:57 PM
How would one send an instant message across the store to another computer in the same store? I realize the whole to her portion would require her presence in front of a computer, I am just talking in general, unless you signed into both and sent it to yourself or something :confused:
nevermind... those were examples, nothing more. if thats what you commented on in my post, forget it. Its falling on deaf ears :D Through your post you go onto say "she can look me up" or whatever... I got news for you... you are looking for ways to talk to her remember? I can bet one thing right now that shes NOT doing... thinking of ways to talk to you. Please dont take offense to that, its just generally something women dont have to do.
You want her? Go get her! Don't hide behind "i dont care" because the fact is you do, and deep down you would be pissed if she started dating someone besides you... SELF CONFIDENCE! thats what i hear time and time again :D
nevermind... those were examples, nothing more. if thats what you commented on in my post, forget it. Its falling on deaf ears :D Through your post you go onto say "she can look me up" or whatever... I got news for you... you are looking for ways to talk to her remember? I can bet one thing right now that shes NOT doing... thinking of ways to talk to you. Please dont take offense to that, its just generally something women dont have to do.
You want her? Go get her! Don't hide behind "i dont care" because the fact is you do, and deep down you would be pissed if she started dating someone besides you... SELF CONFIDENCE! thats what i hear time and time again :D
topgunn
Sep 19, 03:43 PM
Also, why two different downloads? Surely they could be incorporated into the same file...
Not everyone will want to install BOTH updates.
Not everyone will want to install BOTH updates.
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